{"id":17124,"date":"2020-09-30T11:45:06","date_gmt":"2020-09-30T15:45:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.gormogons.com\/?p=17124"},"modified":"2020-09-30T12:11:50","modified_gmt":"2020-09-30T16:11:50","slug":"not-much-debate-over-the-debate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gormogons.com\/index.php\/2020\/09\/not-much-debate-over-the-debate\/","title":{"rendered":"Not Much Debate Over the Debate"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Americans of all political stripes united together last night to ask \u201c<em>What the hell did I just watch<\/em>?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Of course, the Czar is talking about the first\u2014and potentially last\u20142020 Presidential Debate. Not only was there surprisingly little actual debate between the candidates, there wasn\u2019t even a whole lot among Twitter readers. Incredibly, both Democrats and Republicans seemed to be echoing the same thoughts: \u201cThese guys are terrible.\u201d \u201cChris Wallace is not helping.\u201d \u201cWhy on earth are we still watching?\u201d<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.gormogons.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/tantrum2020.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-17125\" src=\"http:\/\/www.gormogons.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/tantrum2020.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" height=\"279\" \/><\/a>You\u2019ll still have your die-hard fans of either candidate. Your rabid Biden supporter (pictured, right) is still throwing a tantrum about that horrible, nasty Trump bully and his shameful ways. How unfair! How could they let that happen?<\/p>\n<p>Of course, your fist-clenched Trump supporter was so excited to see his guy that he wound up fully undressed in front of the television last night (not pictured for reasons of decency). Definitely some carpet cleaning is in order for those guys.<\/p>\n<p>You can safely ignore either of those. But for the average person, considering a vote for Biden or a vote for Trump, there seemed to be a lot of disappointment to go around. For the record, the Czar doubts there are any seriously undecided people left: you already know which way you\u2019re voting, and if not, last night did not help anybody. In fact, both candidates made major mistakes.<\/p>\n<p>First, <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><strong>Biden<\/strong><\/span>.<\/p>\n<p>Joe Biden was clearly going in planning to be the nice, affable, reasonable alternative, but came off acting like a smug elite who didn\u2019t condescend to answering questions. Many of his statements were self-contradictory (So is he for the New Green Deal or not? Is he in favor of lockdowns or no? Does he support Antifa or no?). Another batch of pseudo-answers were so utterly wrong (Trump thinks racists are fine people? Antifa is just an idea? Teachers pay more tax than Trump?) that it\u2019s difficult to believe he reads or watches the news. And he looked a bit desperate to keep using a hammer on the COVID nail, even working the virus into his answer on race relations; it grew tiresome.<\/p>\n<p>Speaking of tiresome, our President! There\u2019s no doubt that <strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Trump<\/span> <\/strong>chose to hit hard, hit fast, and hit often. Piss off Joe and he&#8217;ll lose it on national television! In fact, that\u2019s a <em>perfect<\/em> strategy for last night\u2019s debate. It\u2019s clear that Trump studied Biden\u2019s debate against Paul Ryan, and decided he wouldn\u2019t let that happen again. It\u2019s also clear he studied Crowley\u2019s attack on Mitt Romney, and decided no two-bit moderator would get the jump on him, either. But rather than try a Sonny Liston early domination or a Muhammed Ali rope-a-dope, Trump went out there and looked like Curly Howard after hearing \u201cPop Goes the Weasel,\u201d whipping punches in a furious frenzy until he pretty much knocked himself out, as well. While he got under Biden&#8217;s skin early, Trump did not actually rattle Biden enough to make it work.<\/p>\n<p>Trump clearly had some great zingers, stingers, and sick burns saved up\u2014but rather than slide them in at the right instant, he chose to rattle them off in random order, trying to get as many in as he could in 90 minutes. And this really didn\u2019t work: hitting Biden with \u201cYou called our troops \u2018stupid bastards\u2019\u201d would have been great when Biden was talking about the dubious World War I cemetery claim; instead, Trump threw it out talking about climate change. Trump should have kept some of those for the next debate; maybe the President felt there won\u2019t be another opportunity\u2014who can say. But his timing was all off.<\/p>\n<p>Overall, Trump was masterful when discussing law and order: Biden looked totally cowed and worried. But while this resounded well, Trump totally skidded when answering the Critical Race Theory question. Rather than blast Chris Wallace for treating a thoroughly nonsensical concept as \u201csensitivity training,\u201d he chose to wander all over the place. Trump, or <em>you<\/em> or the <em>Czar<\/em>, could have ended that one right there, for good, by spending one minute describing what CRT is, and another minute describing why it\u2019s a poisonous form of subversion that has no place in the government\u2014federal, state, or even local school board. What a blown opportunity.<\/p>\n<p>Finally, a lot of folks are gnashing teeth at Chris Wallace. Yes, he threw a lot of ridiculous questions at Trump. But re-watch the questions: he also put a <em>lot<\/em> of threatening questions at Biden, too. Biden chose to dance around the topics, but Wallace failed to follow up. At the same time, his early finger-wagging at Trump cost Wallace dearly, as Trump now viewed <em>him<\/em> as an adversary, and stomped all over his moderation. Overall, Wallace didn\u2019t do a great job of moderating, but really: no one can right a ship that speeds straight into a sandbar and tears its keel off. Once that debate started, any moderator was doomed.<\/p>\n<p>The media will likely declare Biden the winner simply because they always side with the Democrat, and will likely use low-expectations bigotry to do so. \u201cBiden looked to be the calmer person,\u201d \u201cHe proved himself more presidential,\u201d or \u201cHe was the adult in the room.\u201d None of which was true: as we said above, Biden was openly self-contradicting, pronouncing debunked claims or made-up-on-the-spot theories, and tiresomely repetitive, and this was likely the <em>worst<\/em> debate of his 47-year career; however, Trump\u2019s Wild Hyacinth act undid any harm Biden did to himself.<\/p>\n<p>Well, we\u2019ll see if the Biden campaign agrees to another debate, and if so, what the terms will be. The Czar still maintains debates are essential for candidates, even if they don\u2019t change voters\u2019 minds much. At least we can see what we\u2019re getting, and the Czar would not be surprised to see fairly decent ratings for this first debate. Not so sure how a second debate would fare, though: people who didn\u2019t see last night\u2019s rodeo would probably be disinclined to watch another, especially if they hear it was nothing but yelling over each other.<\/p>\n<p>To be honest, the Czar had that feeling he gets when he\u2019s in a bar or restaurant, and two guys at the next table start getting into it, to the point that you start looking for the exit, gathering your stuff, and maybe watching for a weapon. Some of our readers will know what we mean: that tingling sensation in the hands, the tension in the neck, and the yawning feeling in the stomach that this could get serious. That explains why the Czar stretched a single glass of wine across 90 minutes, rather than the bottle he planned to down. You might just need your faculties, here.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Americans of all political stripes united together last night to ask \u201cWhat the hell did I just watch?\u201d Of course, the Czar is talking about the first\u2014and potentially last\u20142020 Presidential Debate. 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