{"id":3377,"date":"2011-02-01T01:14:00","date_gmt":"2011-02-01T01:14:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/68.169.38.31\/?p=3377"},"modified":"2014-04-07T00:29:42","modified_gmt":"2014-04-07T00:29:42","slug":"inefficiency-of-electric-cars","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gormogons.com\/index.php\/2011\/02\/inefficiency-of-electric-cars\/","title":{"rendered":"The (in)Efficiency of Electric Cars"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/68.169.38.31\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/02\/graphic-energy.jpg\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" src=\"http:\/\/68.169.38.31\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/02\/graphic-energy-300x209.jpg\" width=\"200px\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p>So our dear readers write in to a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wearysloth.com\/Gallery\/ActorsG\/7120-27893.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">screaming Czar<\/a> about <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gormogons.com\/2011\/01\/efficiency-of-electric-cars.html\">mechanical efficiencies<\/a> when they have access to a time traveling robot?!?!  Go figure.  Well, before I dive into it, I&#8217;ll let <b>GorT, Sr.<\/b> chime in:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I believe [the Czar] has ignored the efficiency of generating the electricity that charges the cars.  I can\u2019t believe the 97% &#8211; 93% numbers include generating losses, let alone transmission and charging inefficiencies.  Just looking at the thermodynamics laws that state that your efficiency (of any heat engine) is a function of the hot side temperature and the low side (sink) temperature measured in absolute degrees.  Since even a gas turbine can\u2019t reject heat into absolute zero \u2013 it\u2019s more like 500\u00b0 K or so.  The efficiency is the area enclosed by the engine cycle on a temperature-entropy plot if my memory serves me right.  Checking <a href=\"http:\/\/needtoknow.nas.edu\/energy\/energy-sources\/emerging-technologies\/adv-coal-technology.php\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">the databanks<\/a>, I find 45-50% efficiencies for the most advanced coal plants.  If you include a maximum of 50% to generate the electricity, that would collapse the efficiencies of electric vehicles compared to gasoline powered cars.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Further research shows that nominal coal and oil-fired plants run about 33% efficient and combined-cycle gas-fired plants can run as high as 50%.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>So our dear readers write in to a screaming Czar about mechanical efficiencies when they have access to a time traveling robot?!?! Go figure. Well, before I dive into it, I&#8217;ll let GorT, Sr. chime in: I believe [the Czar] <span class=\"excerpt-dots\">&hellip;<\/span> <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/gormogons.com\/index.php\/2011\/02\/inefficiency-of-electric-cars\/\"><span class=\"more-msg\">Continue reading &rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":10131,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[897,1419,334],"tags":[],"coauthors":[],"class_list":["post-3377","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-cars","category-electricity","category-math-class-is-hard"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.3 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>The (in)Efficiency of Electric Cars - The Gormogons<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/gormogons.com\/index.php\/2011\/02\/inefficiency-of-electric-cars\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"The (in)Efficiency of Electric Cars - The Gormogons\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"So our dear readers write in to a screaming Czar about mechanical efficiencies when they have access to a time traveling robot?!?! 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